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    Post by helmutcdn Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:43 am

    hi,do not know what it could be a decal?
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    Post by LSR Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:39 pm

    North Nova Scotia Highlanders (3 can inf div).
    Is this helmet in your collection?
    I believe that I 've seen this helmet before.
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    Post by helmutcdn Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:54 am

    yes, the helmet from my collection...
    more photos..
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    Post by smle1940 Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:00 am

    This is my NNSH helmet, I have also a Battledress, will post it later ;-)

    Glenn

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    Post by jm Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:36 pm

    Yes LSR (HEnkJan) you seen this helmet. Glen is the new owner, because I have found a very nice MKIII NNSH.

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    Post by jm Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:41 pm

    jm wrote:Yes LSR (HEnkJan) you've seen this helmet. Glen is the new owner, because I have found a very nice MKIII NNSH.

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    Post by LSR Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:01 pm

    That explians it though.But you must admit that they look very similar (Helmut and Glen's helmets).
    Nice lids guys Very Happy
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    Post by smle1940 Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:59 am

    LSR wrote:That explians it though.But you must admit that they look very similar (Helmut and Glen's helmets).
    Nice lids guys Very Happy

    Yes Indeed, maybe they painted the helmet while sitting next to eachother Wink haha

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    Post by Haplo Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:39 pm

    My latest purchase.
    A nice CL/C 1942 with RCCoS flash.
    Only the blue part is in good condition.
    The white part is sadly for the most gone.
    But still, original as found.

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    Post by blitzkrieghenk Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:25 am

    Very nice lids men!!
    I like those helmets wearing flashes.
    @JM very nice mkIII with a excellent NNS flash.
    @Glenn also nice helmet,Ihave seen this helmet before hmmm haha

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    Post by Seaforth Highlander Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:25 pm

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    The helmet with the Seaforth decal (transfer) on it is great and rare. I suspect it is Imperial Seaforths though. I do have two original NOS Gale & Polden decals / transfers for the Seaforths (ex-Pat Smith > Jack Gentle collection) One has the L and coronet, so is officer pattern. Other one is OR like the one shown. That one is 2-1/4" wide. These were bought in Aldershot in WWII by Pat Smith. He also bought vehicle formation sign decals/transfers which I bought from him and still have.

    In 1972 I started and ran the Seaforth Highlanders of Canada Museum and Archives while serving as a junior officer with the regiment. I was Curator for 15 years (three separate "tours") and finally retired from it July 2011 after it had attained Canadfian Forces Museum status. I never saw this decal connected with the Canadian Seaforths. I found two early WWII helmets both named to Seaforth of C COs (Leslie and Stevenson as I recall) - one with painted stag's head and other with decal. One I found in QM stores - we were still using WWII helmets then. So I got an ordinary helmet and traded it for the marked one from the QM for the museum. By the 1970s the Seaforth Association reproduced the wartime helmet decal as a souvenir for members and it is the OR's badge on a tartan patch. I have one on the windshield of my 1944 Willys MB jeep and an unused one in my decals collection.

    A member of this forum has the bulk of the Pat Smith > Colin Stevens > Jack Gentle helmet decals.

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    Post by helmutcdn Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:20 am

    RCAMC helmet,maker CL/C 1941
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    Post by Jonhno Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:31 pm

    just picked up this double decal helmet, Saskatchewan Light Infantry MG, the flash are in poor shape but are decals rather than painted, too bad no liner or chinstrap
    but am happy with my new find, on closer inspection they look painted, sorry! also found out with some help, this belonged to CSM WJ MADDISON HQ COMP

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    Post by Cameraguy Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:18 am

    Hmmmm....there may have been three fellows who sat together as this was being done, as I have 2 NNSH MKII's as well as a MKIII but without the thistle.It has the 3rd div patch with numerical 9th brigade on the patch. Really cool...
    Love to post 'em, but I can't seem to figure out the pic thing yet.
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    Post by 48th Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:31 am


    Hello gentlemen,

    I love the pictures of the helmets and decals. Would love to post a couple of my own but I am in the same boat as Camera Guy.

    Clive your web page regarding this subject is great and has come in handy many times.

    I would love to pick up a early WWII 48th Highlanders stencilled marked helmet if any one out there has one for sale??

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    Post by edstorey Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:07 pm

    I pulled this out of a pile of Canadian Mk II shells.

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    Post by Infanteer Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:31 pm

    That's an interesting helmet. Would that have been an official/standard addition to the helmet for instructors?
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    Post by edstorey Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:23 am

    Looks like the AI figured he needed to have his distinguishing badge painted on his helmet. I hope the large dent on top is not an indication of how well liked he was.
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    Post by Perth-Regiment(M.G.) Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:30 pm

    Im Looking for images of helmets with MP(Millitary Police) decals, Medic decals, or Perth Regiment M.G. decals.
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    Post by Jonhno Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:59 pm

    this one is a british shell original grey paint on the inside, heavy, tar? overpaint with green over that, artillery flash peeking out on the side
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    Post by Bill Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:52 am

    Marked helmets are notorious for forgeries. (There is one vendor who has earned a reputation for his decorative arts.)
    Lets parse this one. The unit, "X Super Heavy Battery RCA" did exist. It was operational for a grand total of about 4 months, from October of 1940 to February of 1941. The personnel were drawn from the CAHU (Canadian Artillery Holding Unit)to form "X" and "Y" Heavy Batteries, operating railway guns in defense against a possible German invasion. During their period of operational control they were under command of 3rd Super Heavy Regiment RA. But they were only a unit for four months.
    To come at it from another angle, the D xxxx number, either a D6xxx or an 8xxx were blocks alloted to artillery units, so that supports the artillery connection.
    Unfortunately, the formation patch has been obliterated, and is not really discernable. But, if there was as formation patch worn by 3 SHR RA during the time period it needs to be checked out.
    Balance of probabilities? Why would a gunner leave the identification of his helmet to that unit? It would be incorrect after Feb 1941.
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    Post by Jonhno Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:55 pm

    Bill wrote:Marked helmets are notorious for forgeries. (There is one vendor who has earned a reputation for his decorative arts.)
    Lets parse this one. The unit, "X Super Heavy Battery RCA" did exist. It was operational for a grand total of about 4 months, from October of 1940 to February of 1941. The personnel were drawn from the CAHU (Canadian Artillery Holding Unit)to form "X" and "Y" Heavy Batteries, operating railway guns in defense against a possible German invasion. During their period of operational control they were under command of 3rd Super Heavy Regiment RA. But they were only a unit for four months.
    To come at it from another angle, the D xxxx number, either a D6xxx or an 8xxx were blocks alloted to artillery units, so that supports the artillery connection.
    Unfortunately, the formation patch has been obliterated, and is not really discernable. But, if there was as formation patch worn by 3 SHR RA during the time period it needs to be checked out.
    Balance of probabilities? Why would a gunner leave the identification of his helmet to that unit? It would be incorrect after Feb 1941.

    Hello Bill

    Thanks for responding, I do not mind at all any scrutiny on this helmet, I am learning myself too. This was my understanding that it was from a coastal artillery battery in the UK, I appreciate the detail regarding how long it existed. Also referencing the no. believe its a 6---. I got it based on a few images, I didnt notice the flash until I got it in the post and had a better look at it, someone had stuffed a mint canadian made liner in it with a new nut and bolt, again only in hand did I notice that it was a british made shell and was actually originally grey
    perhaps he was assigned to a new unit after this, and the helmet not used again, my gut feeling having it in hand is that its ok, I can understand your point about the info being irrelivant after such a short time, they might not have known it was such a short posting to begin with, and to leave it on? if it was used, his no. would still remain the same I would think? if your ever by Toronto Bill you are welcome to take a look at it

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    Post by iwasatdieppe06 Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:40 pm

    mk1rceme wrote:Fantastic helmet!

    I don't own a helmet with a waterslide decal, but I have a few with painted unit insignia. I do have an original RCAF waterslide though.

    Maybe we should have two topics, one for decals and one for painted examples. What do you think?

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    Hey Dale, just wondering about the RCAF decal. Were those war time applied?

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    Post by mk1rceme Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:21 pm

    No idea...more than likely there were some. The only ones I have seen lately look like they were applied very recently. I have an RCEME helmet with a waterslide decal which has a varnish applied over the decal that has darkened with age. I've seen several RCAF helmets on ebay recently that do not show any varnish or aging at all.


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    Post by mk1rceme Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:33 pm

    This is what I mean...after a while the varnish darkens and changes the color of the decal. In hand the light blue on the bottom looks green. For a while I didn't know this one was RCEME because of the color change. With German helmets, the varnish applied to the decals gives them a darker color as well. Because of this, I would be wary of some of the RCAF helmets seen on ebay.

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