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    South Africa War Veterans Association

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    Post by TheBreaker02 Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:00 pm

    Hello all,

    Quite some time ago on a holiday to the US and Canada, I was at a collectors shop in Toronto, browsing through his stock and I came across a small enamel badge, it was to the South African War Veterans Association Province of Quebec. This was quite a find as I collect mainly to the Boer war. I immediately purchased this and later added it to my collection of Boer war veterans Associations.

    I have often wondered if any other provence had their own association and if they had their own badge and have never been able to find out.

    Has any member come across any other badges/pin of this type, I be interested to know.

    At present I do not have a photo of the badge but will try and upload one as soon as I can.

    Many thanks,

    TheBreaker02



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    Post by qsamike Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:30 am

    Good Morning Breaker.....

    Only the Province of Quebec had its own association as far as I have been able to find out..... There were other groups across Canada but became united under The South African Verterans Association that was world wide withe the round pin......

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    Post by qsamike Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:41 am

    Just a little addition.....

    FYI....

    Here is a list of photos of members of the R.C.R. that were from Quebec that I have if you are interested ......

    ACKERMAN, Private F., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    ADAIR, Private B., R.C.A. E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    ADAMS, Sergeant J.A., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    ALMOND, Reverend J., Anglican Chaplain, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    ANDERSON, Private S., 8th R.R., Reinforcement for R.C.R.I.
    ARMSTRONG, Private E., R.C.A., A Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    ATKINSON, Private G., 8th R.R., F Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    BAUGH, Corporal B, R.C.A., F Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    BAUGH, Private E., R.C.A., B Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I., (Wounded)
    CANTY, Private R., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    CONVEY, Private, S., 8th R.R., Reinforcement for R.C.R.I.
    CROTTY, Private Phillip, 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    DALBERG, Private R., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    DAWSON, Private A., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    DELANEY, Private M.J., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    DEMAIS, Private A., 9th Regiment, F Coy, 1st Contingent R.C.R.I.
    DONAHUE, Private P., United States Army (Infantry), F Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    DRUM, Private A., 8th R.R., Reinforcement for R.C.R.I.
    DUBERGER, Private A., 1st Field Battery R.A., F Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    DYNES, Private E.J., Q.O.C.H., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    EUSEBE, Private Jobin, 9th Regiment, F Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    EVANS, Private A., 8th R.R., Reinforcement for R.C.R.I.
    FISET, Surgeon-Major E., 89th Regiment, Medical Officer, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    HILL, Private Fred, 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent R.C.R.I.
    HOME, Private, Frank, Q.O.C.H., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    HOULT, Private E., R.C.A., H Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    HUDON, Private A.J., 65th R.R., F Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    JEWELL, Private T., 8th R.R., F Coy, 1st Contingent R.C.R.I.
    KENNEDY-HILL, Lance Corporal J., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    KNOWELL, Private John, R.C.A., B Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I. (Wounded)
    LAMBKIN, Private H.J., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    LaRUE, Private L., 87th Regt., F Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I. (Wounded & D.O.D.)
    LECOUTEUR, Private R.R., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I. (K.I.A.)
    LEE, Private Fred, Q.O.C.H., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    LEFEBVRE, Lance Corporal, P.W., 9th Regiment, F Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    McCANN, Private, 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    McNAUGHTON, Private F. 8th R.R., Reinforcement for R.C.R.I.
    McQUEEN, Private Alexander, 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I. (K.I.A.)
    MURRAY, Private W.R., 8th R.R., F Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    O'BRIEN, Private J., Prince Of Wales Fusiliers, E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    O'LEARY, Reverend P.M., Roman Catholic Chaplain, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    O'MEARA, Private D.A., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    OGILVIE, Captain, J.H.C., R.C.A., Battalion Adjutant, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    OTTER, Lieutenant Colonel W.D.
    PELLETIER, Lieutenant Colonel O.C.C., Major, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I. (Wounded)
    PEPPIATT, Sergeant W.A., R.C.A., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    PLAMONDON, Private J., 9th Regiment, F Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    POWER, Lance Corporal L., R.C.A., B Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I. (Wounded)
    PRICE, Private Arthur, E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    RATTRAY, Private, E.E.B., 8th R.R., Reinforcement for R.C.R.I.
    RAYMOND alias CULVER, Private J., F Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I. (Wounded)
    RUSSEL, Private P., Q.O.C.H., Reinforcement for R.C.R.I.
    SCOTT, Private C.C., 8th R.R., Reinforcement for R.C.R.I.
    SHEENAN, Private M.P., Q.O.C.H., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    SOUCY, Private A. R.C.R., F Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    SWIFT, Private M., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    SWIFT, Lieuitenant A.E., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    THOMPSON, Private H., R.C.A., B Coy, 1st Contingent R.C.R.I.
    TREGGETT, Lance Corporal J., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    TURNER, Private A.A., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I. (Wounded)
    TWEDELL, Private C.W., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    WOLFE, Private P., 8th R.R., Reinforcement for R.C.R.I.
    WRIGHT, Private J., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.
    WRIGHT, Private P.E., 8th R.R., E Coy, 1st Contingent, R.C.R.I.



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    Post by TheBreaker02 Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:03 am

    Hello Mike C,

    Many thanks for your welcome to your forum, and the very useful information regarding the veterans association, I had thought that each province had a branch, but that is very interesting. Thanks also for the information, you never know when it can be used.

    I tend to just collect enamel lapel/pin badges now as these are very difficult to fake/forge. I'm sure that I'm not the only person to get stung buying fake items.

    Anyway, I shall enjoy posting of you forum, once again many thanks.

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    Post by qsamike Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:59 am

    Good Morning Breaker......

    Was going through some old pictures and found these.....

    Mike

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    Post by TheBreaker02 Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:04 am

    Hello Mike,

    That’s a very interesting medal. I was intrigued to notice that on the obverse it has a late Queen Victoria’s head and on the reverse it states His Majesty’s Army, Navy and Colonial Forces Veterans Association. Incorporated Canada 1901. Perhaps,it was minted just after the Queens death in 1901, have you any information about the medal and the association. Do you know if these veterans were in South Africa and have any further information about them?.

    Anyway, many thanks for giving us the opportunity of seeing this medal

    Many thanks,

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    Post by TheBreaker02 Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:31 am

    Hello fellow collectors,

    Well I have finally managed to get a photograph of the badge and will attach it as soon as possible.

    Best regards,

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    Post by boardalan Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:22 am

    Hi qsamike,

    I have never seen that particular badge before. I wonder if the badge changed over time? Or maybe by area? Alternatively, perhaps whoever printed that item didn't know what the original badge looked like? I have seen a few of the badges in the style on the first card, and I would expect all branches would have used the same design nationwide.

    I particularly like the verse on the inside of the card, very moving.

    Kind regards,
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    Post by qsamike Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:31 am

    boardalan wrote:Hi qsamike,

    I have never seen that particular badge before. I wonder if the badge changed over time? Or maybe by area? Alternatively, perhaps whoever printed that item didn't know what the original badge looked like? I have seen a few of the badges in the style on the first card, and I would expect all branches would have used the same design nationwide.

    I particularly like the verse on the inside of the card, very moving.

    Kind regards,

    Good Morning......

    Maybe it is because I have not finished my first cup of coffee yet but I am confused by your post......

    Can you please expand......

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